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Vice President Mike Pence on "CBS This Morning"
"Face the Nation" moderator Margaret
Brennan sat down early Thursday morning with Vice President Mike Pence for
"CBS This Morning." Hours before, the vice president had been among
those at Joint Base Andrews to greet three Americans freed from North Korea:
Kim Dong Chul, Kim Hak Song, and Tony Kim.
In the interview, Pence discussed the upcoming
summit between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, UVA student
Otto Warmbier, and the United States withdrawal from the Iran nuclear
deal.
Below is the full transcript of their
conversation. Some of Brennan's interview aired Thursday on "CBS This
Morning."
MARGARET BRENNAN: Thank you very much, Mr. Vice
President.
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: You bet.
MARGARET BRENNAN: What condition are these
prisoners in? And what do we know about what happened to them in captivity?
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: Well, they're
receiving detailed medical attention, and have since they were wheels up from
North Korea. But all of them were in such good spirits. To be able to have an
opportunity to visit with them on the tarmac after the President and First Lady
brought them out of the plane was deeply moving to Karen and me.
And to have a few words with them, to hear their
expressions of support for the president, their gratitude to the country, their
gratitude for the prayers of the American people, I'll remember the rest of my
life. But, you know, it really was a moment, Margaret, that I believe is a
result of a change in policy and a change in leadership here in the United
States of America.
It--it was just a few days after the inauguration
in 2017 that President Trump initiated a policy of-- of abandoning the era of
strategic patience with North Korea and adopting a new policy to bring economic
and diplomatic pressure to bear to achieve what the world had failed to achieve
for more than two decades: the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.
And tonight, on the tarmac at Andrews Air Force
Base, we-- I think we saw a hopeful sign that this time it might be different.
And we are-- we very much appreciate the statements and the efforts that Kim
Jong-un has made so far to move us toward the path to peace.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And you've been involved behind
the scenes in strategizing for this summit between Kim Jong-un and President
Trump. What does the release actually signify to you, though, about Kim's
willingness to negotiate away his nuclear arsenal?
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: Well when you look at
the agreed framework of the Clinton administration, when you look at the
six-party talks of the Bush administration, there was a fairly consistent
pattern, Margaret, of when negotiations for denuclearization of North Korea
failed in the past. And that was that the parties came together, promises were
made, and then promises were broken. But-- but the promises weren't made by
North Korea until there were concessions, until there were resources made
available.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And you don't see--
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: When--
MARGARET BRENNAN: --this summit as a concession?
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: Well what I see is
when--when the South Koreans came with the request for a meeting, and said
that-- that Kim Jong-un had said he was prepared to suspend ballistic missile
testing, suspend nuclear testing, not object to American military exercises,
and was requesting a summit. I was sitting next to the president when,
virtually on the spot, he said, "Yes. We'll do it."
And it's because I think the President senses an
opening that--that may result in a historic agreement. As the president often
says, we'll see. But--but it is accurate to say that North Korea has taken
steps so far, made commitments so far. And making it possible for these three
Americans to come home before there were any concessions even offered by the
United States or our allies gives us--
MARGARET BRENNAN: What--
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: --hope this may be
different.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You've been speaking with the
Secretary of State who has been in the ground in Pyongyang.
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: I have.
MARGARET BRENNAN: In this meeting, were there any
new concessions made, any promises made about what Kim will actually do with
his nuclear program?
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: What Kim Jong-un has
said publicly and in discussions is that he is prepared-- he is prepared-- to
negotiate to achieve complete denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. Those
words are important, but we'll see what they mean.
And I do believe that, when the summit comes
about, in the not-distant future, that President Trump will go in with the
attitude of trying to determine, you know, what the intentions of the North
Koreans are. But in the same moment, he'll be making very clear that-- that
we're not going to make the mistakes of the past. That--that the United States
of America will stay on the path that brought us to this point.
President Trump changed the direction of North
Korea, changed the entire direction of the Asian Pacific with regard to this
threat when he abandoned strategic patience, brought our allies together,
brought China in, in an unprecedented way. And we believe all of that in
combination has brought us to the point where we have a real opportunity for a
breakthrough. But the President will--he'll assess that at the moment in the
time. But we really believe it's significant. Not only is it--it's a great day
in America to see three Americans freed from captivity in North Korea. But -
but we also think it continues to support that this-- this may be a real
opportunity for a historic peace.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You spoke with the family of
Otto Warmbier, the--
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: I did.
MARGARET BRENNAN: --UVA student who wasn't so
fortunate and died shortly after he was released from captivity. What did you
say to his parents when you spoke to him (sic) yesterday?
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: Well President Trump
called the Warmbiers over the weekend. And when news broke that the Secretary
of State was coming home with our three Americans I felt compelled to call them
as well. And simply let them know that, while, while we we receive this news
with joy, that that Otto was on all of our hearts. And their family was in our
prayers.
I mean,we-- we got Otto home last year, but it
wasn't soon enough, and we lost him. And-- and their family has-- has been so
brave and so courageous standing up for the truth of what happened to their
son. But the-- but the need for real progress on the Korean peninsula, as you
know, Fred Warmbier traveled with us when we went to the Olympics. He met with
defectors. He-- he has taken the pain and suffering and loss of that family and
they have turned it into-- a platform to advocate for justice on the Korean
peninsula. And they have our deep respect.
MARGARET BRENNAN: There are also other families
suffering. In Iran, at least four
American prisoners are still being held there.
VICE PRESIDENT
MIKE PENCE: Yes, that's right.
MARGARET
BRENNAN: One of their family members was at the White House yesterday. Is the
Trump Administration open to a prisoner swap?
VICE PRESIDENT
MIKE PENCE: I believe we are always interested in opportunities to bring
Americans home. But--
MARGARET
BRENNAN: And that means--talking to Iran right now about doing that?
VICE PRESIDENT
MIKE PENCE: Well, I think we sent a pretty strong message to Iran this week
when the President made the decision to withdraw from their Iran nuclear deal.
MARGARET
BRENNAN: And that's why the families are worried that their family members may
be held hostage now to this diplomacy that's been torn up.
VICE PRESIDENT
MIKE PENCE: Well, we actually believe that, that by withdrawing from the Iran
nuclear deal, we've not with-- we've not stepped back from leadership in the
region. But rather, President Trump is providing new and renewed leadership.
This was a
deeply flawed agreement that did nothing to check the support for terrorism and
the malign activities of Iran, did nothing to check the ballistic missile
ambitions. In fact--
MARGARET
BRENNAN: But why not handle the prisoner issue before that?
VICE PRESIDENT
MIKE PENCE: --the agreement would lapse in seven years, Margaret, and after
seven years, Iran would have no limitation on its ability to develop nuclear
weapons. What President Trump is speaking with our allies about, and met with
President Macron, spoke to Prime Minister May, Angela Merkel was in, the
chancellor of Germany, is - is we - we felt it was important to withdraw from
this deeply flawed Iran nuclear deal. But now we're engaging on--
MARGARET
BRENNAN: But nothing on the prisoners?
VICE PRESIDENT
MIKE PENCE: --the possibility of a new deal which may create opportunities for
not only addressing issue of Americans that are detained in Iran, but also
checking the extraordinary malign influence and support for terrorism that Iran
continues to propagate across the region.
MARGARET
BRENNAN: Overnight, Iranian forces fired on Israeli troops.
VICE PRESIDENT
MIKE PENCE: They did.
MARGARET
BRENNAN: Israel has now carried out air strikes. Did you
expect that exiting the deal would have this kind of escalation?
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: Well, we've - we've
been anticipating the potential for some Iranian reaction since air strikes
that took place a couple of weeks ago against Iranian sites in Syria. And we're
monitoring it very closely. We stand by Israel's right of self-defense to
protect its nation, its people, and its sovereignty.
But make no mistake about it, the Iran nuclear
deal that allowed 150 billion dollars to be returned, 1.8 billion dollars in
cash, the - the fact that the deal didn't check the aggressive influence of
Iran across the region is exactly why Iran is in Syria. It's exactly why you
have Iranian forces and Iranian missiles that have positioned in Syria as that
nation's been swept up into a bloody civil war.
And the president's leadership with regard to the
Iran nuclear deal we believe sets our nation and the region on a different
course. It gives us the opportunity, working with our allies, not just Israel,
but Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, all of whom express support for us
withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal--
MARGARET BRENNAN: And you don't think this
damages-
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: - the opportunity for
a new coalition -
MARGARET BRENNAN: --diplomacy with North Korea?
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: -- that will check -
that will check the malign activities of Iran and prevent the kind of violence
that we saw in the last 24 hours.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And you don't think that hurts
your diplomacy with North Korea?
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: President Trump
believes in peace through strength. And by withdrawing from the Iran nuclear
deal, he's made it clear to the world stage that we will not enter into a
deeply flawed agreement that does not achieve the objectives that we stated.
The truth is, the Iran nuclear deal only delayed
the ability for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. I fully expect that - that as
the North Korean leadership looks at the President's decision, they'll see two
things. Number one, they'll see that he's a man of his word. He told the
American people that he thought the Iranian nuclear deal was a disaster and we
should withdraw. He kept his word, just as in other international commitments
that the prior administration had made -
MARGARET BRENNAN: But not America's word.
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: - but the other is -
the other is I think now the message they'll receive is, if we do a deal for
the de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula, that not only will the President
keep his word, but he is going to hold out for a deal that really achieves the
objective that has eluded the world for more than a quarter of a century. And
that is peace on the peninsula, no more nuclear weapons. And - and no more
threatening of our allies and neighbors in the Asia Pacific.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I'm being given a wrap here.
Mr. Vice President, thank you for your time.
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: Thank you, Margaret.
Appreciate you being here.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Appreciate that.
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